Bungi Bill

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  Aren't You Glad That You Are Out Of The JW Religion?

  by minimus in

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  i am so happy to be out of the cult.

  i would never go back!

  i don't know some still could accept this religion, be here, regularly and not just get out..

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  Bungi Bill

  I'm certainly with you there:

  - My oath, it is a "happifying" expereince to be clear of that lot!

  Bill.
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  Give me some examples of 'good lawyers'.

  by LogCon in

  1. social
  2. humour

  for some strange reason when i previously asked to give me examples of how evil attorneys are and then reworded to give me examples of evil lawyers, many misinterpreted that i was labeling all lawyers as evil.

  i simply asked a question.

  i did not state or imply anything.. now, without labeling all lawyers as good, what examples do you have of 'good lawyers'?.

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  Bungi Bill

  My step brother is a lawyer, so I guess I would have to give him the benefit of the doubt and class him in the "good" category (family loyalty and all that!)

  Bill.
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  2 Jdubs at a door

  by whathehadas in

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  this video was posted on a viral site.

  there's 2 witnesses who are put on the spot by a very simple and thought provoking question.

  i read quite a few of the comments posted on this video and most of the people are critical of the jw and you can tell that some have researched about the cult.

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  Bungi Bill

  This could be just me, but I would have classed that response more in the category of "baffle with bull$h#t if you cannot blind with science", rather than thought provoking.

  Still, though, a much more sophisticated way of getting rid of them than the one we popularly encountered in our territory (Logan City, QLD, Australia)

  i.e. "#U&K OFF OUT OF MY PLACE - AND DON'T COME BACK!"

  Bill
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  Brad Scott, Santa Rosa, CA, JW

  by Athanasius in

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  brad scott, a local jw character, passed away the other day.

  he was famous locally for his street witnessing.

  since i left the jws in 1984, i'm not aware of his present status as a jw.

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  Bungi Bill

  I can hardly believe this.

  For several years in the mid-1970s, Brad Scott lived in Australia (where his mother was from).

  During part of that time, I shared a flat with him. To hear that he was recently found dead in his apartment at age 60 has me utterly and completely gobsmacked!

  Bill.
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  A farce elder here

  by His Excellency in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just to share a little about me:.

  i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .

  makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .

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  Bungi Bill

  From what you have told us here, you are not somebody who exactly would inspire trust from others:

  - it would seem that the moment anybody or any thing ceased to bring any benefit to you, they would be flung aside and stamped into the dirt.

  In fact, if I had to have any dealings with you or anybody else of your kind, I would be walking around with a bloody great steel plate tied across my back!

  Bill.
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  Did anyone in the congregation discourage you from going to college?

  by Trapped in JW land in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i remember being out on service with an elder when i was 17. he asked me what i plan on doing after high school.

  i told him i was thinking of going to college to be a teacher.

  he then asked me, "do you think this system is going to be around that long"?

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  Bungi Bill

  They did more than just "discourage" me - I was outright bloody well stopped from even completing high school, let alone going on to university.

  This is why I am currently almost half way through the Advanced Diploma course, which will get me admission to the Institute of Engineers of at least "Engineering Associate" grade (and possibly, with my previous industry experience, get admission to the next level up of "Engineering Technologist"):

  - about as much as a busted @$$ electrician like me can aspire to!

  As to the often-repeated pep phrase "it is never too late":

  - in the absolute sense, true enough, but at a practical level, there does come a time when gaining a four year degree would be too late to make any impact on ones career. Were I to have undertaken the degree course rather than the AD one, by the time I graduated, I would be about ready to "hang up my spurs", as the saying goes. My wife would certainly be disappointed if I didn't anyway. She has already given her opinion about any suggestions of me continuing to work into my seventies! Not that I can blame her in any way for that.

  In summary, for their anti-education stance, the WTS should be - using the vernacular of the district where I grew up - "shot with a ball of their own $h*t

  Bill
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  Reunion- Stepping Back to a Time Before All the JW Stuff Started

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  although i was exposed to the jw's as a child as the only religion i knew, i was not a jw until i got out of the navy as a conscientious objector.

  so i was typical "worldly" when i hit 18 out of high school and i got to see the world before personal catastrophy involving heavy drinking made me turn to the lies that i thought were "the truth.

  " so just over 30 years ago, i got the special privilege of serving as the original crew of a brand new ship with a crew slightly over 200. i served 5 years on the "uss worldly" and then left to become a jw.. when you are the first crew, you learn together how to use that ship, how to run things smoothly.

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  Bungi Bill

  After breaking with the JWs some 20 years ago, I found that I was unable to move on until I had re-discovered the person I was before the Watchtower madness took hold. This process took a number of years to complete, but was worth it - and also contained some very pleasant surprises:

  I'm happy to report that my pre-JW associates have accepted me back into the fold unconditionally

  - and that was one of them!

  Bill.
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  Call from my JW brother that I have not heard from in 5 yrs

  by troubled mind in

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  2. friends

  early this morning i get a phone call from my jw brother i have not heard from in 5 yrs .the first thought in my head was someone has died .

  so i answer cautiously ......hi is everything okay ?

  he just starts talking as if we had always been in contact.

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  Bungi Bill

  Interesting that over the years he could justify not having a relationship with you, because the Bible tells him not to, yet kept on over-drinking.

  In my experience, an all too common situation amongst the Witnesses:

  - If not shunning a DF/DA relative, then there is will be some other outward show of piety (like "gets his hours in" or similar)

  - meanwhile, his best friend continues to be a character called James Boag!

  Bill
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  Anyone every been cut out of family pictures?

  by love2Bworldly in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been thinking about something lately that bothers me.

  i mean it happened years ago, but it just seems really sick.

  when i was disfellowshipped, my sister took all of her pictures that had me in it, cut me out and saved the rest of the pictures.

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  Bungi Bill

  I well and truly got in my father's bad books over the JW religion - not when I left it, though, rather the opposite.

  He didn't object when I got baptised in September, 1972. The stuff hit the fan blades some three months later, when the elders made me throw in my apprenticeship ( the "end was too near", and all that!).

  The immediate effect of that was to cause one almighty brawl, when my father stormed into my place of work, intent on punching me clean into the middle of next week! While never much of a one for violence, on that occassion I felt obliged to protect myself by hitting back in exactly the same manner - maybe even a little worse.

  Anyway, for four years after that, my name was never even mentioned at home. And after my father's death, I found some family photos in which my face had been removed.

  That whole sorry business caused a rift in the family that never was completely healed.

  Bill.
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  Do The Writing Committee Believe?

  by jw07 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone personally know jws serving on the writing committee?.

  what is their outlook regarding the end; are they still truly convinced?.

  are they expressing doubts or seem demotivated?.

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  Bungi Bill

  All very good observations!

  Never to be underestimated, though, is the way that propaganda can work even on those expounding it:

  i.e. if you either hear enough lies being told for long enough, or tell enough lies for long enough, you can end up believing it yourself.

  This has been the experience of a number of persons who have lived under totalitarian rule.

  For example, Robert W. Ford, an Englishman who operated Tibet's radio system, was taken prisoner when the Communist Chinese invaded that country in 1950. As a prisoner, Ford was subjected to a merciless program of indoctrination ("brainwashing"). He figured thay if he wanted an early release (or even any release at all) he had better pretend to go along with this indoctrination program. However, he later remarked that the scary thing about this was, that towards the end of his time as a prisoner, he was actually starting to believe this nonsense.

  I strongly suspect that Crazy Fred Franz, the deluded bloody fool that he was, ended up believing his own propaganda about 1975.

  No wonder the more extreme cult leaders are so easily able to convince everyone (including themselves) to swallow a cyanide cocktail!

  Bill.